Discussion

[Sikander]

Dear members and qualifiers,

the recent trend to discuss suitability clause convinced me to talk about this in this forum. There are couple of questions that I want to raise and be answered. First, When, in the whole process of C.S.S, suitability clause is being considered? Is it in psychology test or in viva? Secondly, who heads the suitability clause decision? Thirdly, what , in your opinion , are the kinds of candidates unsuitable to D.M.G, F.S.P and P.S.P ?

Qualifiers are specially invited to have their say.

Thanking you.

[Arif Rao]

Dear Sikander,
You have raised a very important question. I believe, the process of application of "suitability caluse" is something not very clearly described to the public by FPSC. The most commonly agreed fact is that it is forwarded as a recommendation by the psychologists' panel and then finally decided by The Chairman FPSC at the time of viva.

[Arif Rao]

The link below gives some info about suitability caluse used last year...

http://www.thenews.com.pk/print3.asp?id=14455

P.S. I don't have any confirmation about the authenticity of the matter of this report. Any details/explanation from 36th commoners  in this regard will be highly appreciable.

[whitesilence]

@Sikander, it was honor for us to have a member like you in our forum, who has just asked that question; everybody want to confirm on their own and i am one of them to worry about my ''suitability'' for my preferred post. I have also something else to ask and with your permission i add number fourth question.
fourth, what, aspirants, qualifiers of written portion ought to do to improve their personality skills for their desired posts especially, for P.S.P, F.S.P and D.M.G?

[Sikander]

@Sikander, it was honor for us to have a member like you in our forum, who has just asked that question;

Dear White Silence, thank you for honoring me. I believe that I am just an ordinary kind of person. All praises suit to Him and Him alone.

I had raised this issue but only one qualifier had replied to it so far. I am thankful to Mr Arif and to Mr/Ms White Silence for sparing time for this.

Dear qualifiers, if possible kindly post your comments and views so that this forum can attain what it claims for.

Regards.

[mahmood]

I was the first victim of this clause in CSS-2007 based on the merit list, even though i have not been mentioned in that newspaper article.. i stood 37th, should have been allocated to DMG but was instead given Customs. i did not file any case or anything simply because i feel i am better off in Customs.
so even though i am content with it, my opinion is that it is unfair. it is unfair because it takes away the very thing of the CSS exam that the allocation should be based on merit. if an unsuitable person falls on the merit he should be given the seat. the reason is that the rules have been set by the FPSC, not him. its like a team plays the finals, wins it by a 2-1 margin but the empire gives the losing team two goals out of his pocket and makes the losing team vitorious. very unfair.
there are other things with it too. there is no criteria why one person could be eligible for a group or not. what are the things they are looking for? I have lived and travelled around the world.I know about their cultures more than most of the foreign service people in my batch. does that make me fit for foreign service?
and what is the training for anyway? isnt training what is intended to make that person fit for that specific group.
also there are other peculiarities. but i wont discuss them in this forum.

[Adil Memon]

i agree with all mahmood said. apart from that, suitability clause is used arbitrarily. the psychologists and interviewers hardly examine the candidate for 15+15 minutes. how can they condemn a qualifier to a service group for his life violating his merit and dishonoring his own preferences!

they should rather conduct a suitability test before the candidate begins his preparation for the written exam. because after years of hard work put in qualifying all stages of css and then being told he doesn't seem fit for any group, a candidate sort of loses his soul. for many candidates, css is more a specific group than just government service.

[Sikander]

Dear Farrukh Sahib, what you have to say on this issue?

Awaiting for your say.

Thanking you.